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Frank

Joliet, IL

#21 Jul 27, 2017
Gentile wrote:
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On New Jersey Family being the predecessor to the Lucchese family, part of the old Newark family became the Lucchese New Jersey crew. I know many say the Genovese family came from the Morello family, but many of its members have been identified as being with the Lucchese family after 1931. I say New Orleans was the oldest family in America, as you can trace them back to 1868, while New Jersey (Newark) you can get to 1882.
Yes I always heard that New Orleans was the oldest Family too. And I heard they didn't have to answer to the Commission because they were the oldest. I had just read about the Alabama Family be just recently. No names given. But they must have been a real early family too. Basically old and done by 1938. Didn't make any new members. I guess they made their money then retired. Their kids didn't need to get into the life.
Frank

Joliet, IL

#22 Jul 27, 2017
Frank wrote:
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Yes I always heard that New Orleans was the oldest Family too. And I heard they didn't have to answer to the Commission because they were the oldest. I had just read about the Alabama Family be just recently. No names given. But they must have been a real early family too. Basically old and done by 1938. Didn't make any new members. I guess they made their money then retired. Their kids didn't need to get into the life.
The family or clan from Chicago Heights that merged into the Capone Outfit is very interesting. It was led by a guy named Dominick Roberto till he was deported. Then it was Jimmy Emory and then Frank Laporte. I wonder if they come from the same town or area as the New Jersey Family. Meaning what became the DeCaulvacante Family.
Gentile

Cullman, AL

#23 Jul 28, 2017
Frank wrote:
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Yes I always heard that New Orleans was the oldest Family too. And I heard they didn't have to answer to the Commission because they were the oldest. I had just read about the Alabama Family be just recently. No names given. But they must have been a real early family too. Basically old and done by 1938. Didn't make any new members. I guess they made their money then retired. Their kids didn't need to get into the life.
I got a hold of GV, and RE. GV says that the Riggi's of New Jersey had a relative named Liborio Riggi in Birmingham. RS says that the made members of Birmingham Alabama came from New Orleans, were the cousins Carmelo Musso and Vincenzo Musso died in 1955, half-brother Giuseppe Tortorici, Gaspare Renda died in 1938, and the other two names he will not mention. GV backs up Vincenzo Musso and Gaspare Renda being made, and also backs up Paul and Steve claim that Galante sent a soldier from Canada to Birmingham Alabama when Vincenzo Musso died in 1955.
Gentile

Cullman, AL

#24 Jul 28, 2017
Gentile wrote:
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I got a hold of GV, and RE. GV says that the Riggi's of New Jersey had a relative named Liborio Riggi in Birmingham. RS says that the made members of Birmingham Alabama came from New Orleans, were the cousins Carmelo Musso and Vincenzo Musso died in 1955, half-brother Giuseppe Tortorici, Gaspare Renda died in 1938, and the other two names he will not mention. GV backs up Vincenzo Musso and Gaspare Renda being made, and also backs up Paul and Steve claim that Galante sent a soldier from Canada to Birmingham Alabama when Vincenzo Musso died in 1955.
RE is supposed to be RS.
Frank

Joliet, IL

#25 Jul 28, 2017
Gentile wrote:
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On New Jersey Family being the predecessor to the Lucchese family, part of the old Newark family became the Lucchese New Jersey crew. I know many say the Genovese family came from the Morello family, but many of its members have been identified as being with the Lucchese family after 1931. I say New Orleans was the oldest family in America, as you can trace them back to 1868, while New Jersey (Newark) you can get to 1882.
Any thoughts about Bacino in the Chicago Heights faction and then listed on Blackhand as boss of New Jersey in the 1920s. Then coming back to Chicago Heights. Thanks for Alabama info.
Gentile

Cullman, AL

#26 Jul 28, 2017
Frank wrote:
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Any thoughts about Bacino in the Chicago Heights faction and then listed on Blackhand as boss of New Jersey in the 1920s. Then coming back to Chicago Heights. Thanks for Alabama info.
Tony Bello was an advisor to Amari in Elizabeth and Monaco in Newark. His mentor in the mob was a Campisi, who I think was Peter Campisi, but am not sure. He moved to Chicago in the 1920's, then moved back after Monaco was killed in 1931. He is mentioned in one report as having sided with a Troia against D'Amico over a gambling venue. The Troia, I am certain is Vince Troia who was killed in 1935, and the D'Amico is Gaspare D'Amico boss of the Newark family after Badami stepped down. He then moved back to Chicago as a trade between the two families. Being Boss of New Jersey? It is possible but I am not totally sold on that. Newark was allegedly the biggest family outside New York City on the eastern coast, with about a hundred made members, beating out Pittsburgh who is said to have had 80 made members at its peak.
Frank

Joliet, IL

#27 Jul 28, 2017
Gentile wrote:
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Tony Bello was an advisor to Amari in Elizabeth and Monaco in Newark. His mentor in the mob was a Campisi, who I think was Peter Campisi, but am not sure. He moved to Chicago in the 1920's, then moved back after Monaco was killed in 1931. He is mentioned in one report as having sided with a Troia against D'Amico over a gambling venue. The Troia, I am certain is Vince Troia who was killed in 1935, and the D'Amico is Gaspare D'Amico boss of the Newark family after Badami stepped down. He then moved back to Chicago as a trade between the two families. Being Boss of New Jersey? It is possible but I am not totally sold on that. Newark was allegedly the biggest family outside New York City on the eastern coast, with about a hundred made members, beating out Pittsburgh who is said to have had 80 made members at its peak.
Rotundo testified that. They say he must of got that info from his dad. Were the one family then. Was Eliziabeth a crew in the Newark family. Why was Newark disbanded.
Gentile

Cullman, AL

#28 Jul 29, 2017
Bonanno and Valachi both said there was a Newark family, so it is not new information. Everything I and others have uncovered shows that Elizabeth was a large crew of Newark, 30-40 members. Newark had all of New Jersey. Why it was disbanded, is still up for debate, but I and others agree that Joe Profaci lead the charge on that. Badami and D'Amico made only Sicilian members, and not the others. A bug recorded Nicky Buck, an uncle of Nicky Scarfo of Philadelphia say this to a couple of associates, and another bug has Frank Majuri telling his son Charles and Louis Consalvo of the Elizabeth family this. Those are the only two bugs I can think of, there are other bugs and wiretaps. The Commission was a Commission of peace and how D'Amico ran his family, he was leading it into another war. The factions that were opposing D'Amico were made into the Philadelphia, Gambino and Genovese crime families, while Elizabeth was named their own family by the Commission, while other made men namely of Newark joined one of the seven families. D'Amico fled in 1937 after an assassination attempt and his father was killed. When Newark was disbanded Philadelphia was awarded the southern part of New Jersey.
TheRedBrewer13

Centreville, AL

#29 Apr 20, 2018
Frank wrote:
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A Birmingham Alabama Family is mentioned in one of Bill Bonanno books. Defunct since 1938. Members were old in early 20th century. Never made any new members.
What book was it?
Jack Roselli

Cullman, AL

#30 Apr 20, 2018
TheRedBrewer13 wrote:
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What book was it?
The Last Testimony of Bill Bonanno: The Final Secrets of a Life in the Mafia.
The book was never complete as Bonanno was still writing it with just notes, so it is not structured right. He had asked for his writings here to be published after his death. Bonanno died in 2008, and the book was published in 2011. It is a good read, with much that can be verified through other sources.
TheRedBrewer13

Centreville, AL

#31 Apr 23, 2018
Jack Roselli wrote:
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The Last Testimony of Bill Bonanno: The Final Secrets of a Life in the Mafia.
The book was never complete as Bonanno was still writing it with just notes, so it is not structured right. He had asked for his writings here to be published after his death. Bonanno died in 2008, and the book was published in 2011. It is a good read, with much that can be verified through other sources.
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