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Final pieces of the puzzle voiding the Second Amendment are ready to put in place

There are 20 comments on the RedState story from Monday Jun 11, titled Final pieces of the puzzle voiding the Second Amendment are ready to put in place. In it, RedState reports that:

It's no mystery to the majority of liberty-loving Americans that politicians of every political stripe have been working feverishly to find new ways to restrict or eliminate our constitutionally protected God-given rights. And there has been perhaps no greater effort in their politically correct but unconstitutional agenda than their attempts to void in word and/or deed our .

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im not a doctor

Gatewood, MO

#1 Tuesday Jun 12
This article fails to acknowledge the response that gun owners like myself would issue were any of this actually come to fruition.

We will not register our firearms regardless of any law thats passed and we would consider such laws an act of tyranny by our government. Hypothetically speaking, we might then hold large public rallies where we would flaunt our disobedience towards these laws in an attempt to provoke a response from the government. Of course they would be very careful not to be sucked into such a trap but by allowing people to openly break the law the government would be forced to acknowledge that they had lost their authority.

This would lead to a swift recall of the new laws in order to once again gain control of the people. If they want a civil war they can have one.
Marauder

United States

#2 Tuesday Jun 12
It's time that "we the people" start enforcing this law;

TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States,... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnaping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

I think the arrest of some of these town councils passing draconian anti-gun laws would make for a good wake up call.

Since: Apr 18

Oklahoma City, OK

#3 Tuesday Jun 12
im not a doctor wrote:
This article fails to acknowledge the response that gun owners like myself would issue were any of this actually come to fruition.

We will not register our firearms regardless of any law thats passed and we would consider such laws an act of tyranny by our government. Hypothetically speaking, we might then hold large public rallies where we would flaunt our disobedience towards these laws in an attempt to provoke a response from the government. Of course they would be very careful not to be sucked into such a trap but by allowing people to openly break the law the government would be forced to acknowledge that they had lost their authority.

This would lead to a swift recall of the new laws in order to once again gain control of the people. If they want a civil war they can have one.
It's going to be okay. The GCP is sighted towards those who have committed a crime or are involved in criminal activity.
Marauder

United States

#4 Tuesday Jun 12
The Green Watchdog wrote:
<quoted text> It's going to be okay. The GCP is sighted towards those who have committed a crime or are involved in criminal activity.
The "GCP", whatever that is, only exists in your imagination...they aren't sighted on anything and will accomplish nothing.

Since: Apr 18

Oklahoma City, OK

#5 Tuesday Jun 12
Marauder wrote:
<quoted text>

The "GCP", whatever that is, only exists in your imagination...they aren't sighted on anything and will accomplish nothing.
GCP means the Gun Confiscation Plan. Java Whey or Paratrooper came up with lgs in another post. They wrote that it meant local gun shop. Go figure. I did not know. I asked if I lived 30 miles out of town and then how could it be a local gun store? Wouldn't it be a ngs, or nearest gun store? Help me figure it out.
Marauder

United States

#6 Tuesday Jun 12
The Green Watchdog wrote:
<quoted text>

GCP means the Gun Confiscation Plan. Java Whey or Paratrooper came up with lgs in another post. They wrote that it meant local gun shop. Go figure. I did not know. I asked if I lived 30 miles out of town and then how could it be a local gun store? Wouldn't it be a ngs, or nearest gun store? Help me figure it out.
Like I said, your GCP is your wet dream...that's all it is. Want find your legs...google "gun stores near me".
Marauder

United States

#7 Tuesday Jun 12
I hate autocorrect...lol
Say What

United States

#8 Wednesday Jun 13
The Green Watchdog wrote:
<quoted text> It's going to be okay. The GCP is sighted towards those who have committed a crime or are involved in criminal activity.
So your "GCP" is going to enforce current gun laws? Or are you wanting new and improved laws that do the same thing the old laws would do if they were enforced?

Since: Mar 17

Oklahoma City, OK

#9 Wednesday Jun 13
The Green Watchdog wrote:
<quoted text> It's going to be okay. The GCP is sighted towards those who have committed a crime or are involved in criminal activity.
Your opinions are in my shorts...
Get Out

Morehead City, NC

#10 Wednesday Jun 13
The Green Watchdog wrote:
<quoted text>

GCP means the Gun Confiscation Plan. Java Whey or Paratrooper came up with lgs in another post. They wrote that it meant local gun shop. Go figure. I did not know. I asked if I lived 30 miles out of town and then how could it be a local gun store? Wouldn't it be a ngs, or nearest gun store? Help me figure it out.
I’m willing to bet your Gun Confiscation Plan will be a huge and epic failure.

Since: Mar 17

Oklahoma City, OK

#11 Wednesday Jun 13
The Green Watchdog wrote:
<quoted text>
GCP means the Gun Confiscation Plan. Java Whey or Paratrooper came up with lgs in another post. They wrote that it meant local gun shop. Go figure. I did not know. I asked if I lived 30 miles out of town and then how could it be a local gun store? Wouldn't it be a ngs, or nearest gun store? Help me figure it out.
Your "confiscation plan" has nothing behind it. It's likely something you dreamed up while setting behind your little desk, doing homework in your tight whities, while watching re-runs of Ren & Stimpy.

The term LGS (local gun store) has been around a lot longer than you or anyone else. It only proves my point that you and others on here are uneducated and know dick about firearms or the laws we have regarding same.
Get Out

Morehead City, NC

#12 Wednesday Jun 13
The Green Watchdog wrote:
<quoted text> It's going to be okay. The GCP is sighted towards those who have committed a crime or are involved in criminal activity.
This California Farmer didn’t break any federal laws but tried to do what he thought was right. This is what your GCP will do; make law abiding citizens criminals overnight. GCP will fail because people won’t register their firearms after this B.S. gets out.

Many gun owners are already reluctant to comply with registration laws; as such schemes are accurately viewed as a means to facilitate firearms confiscation.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/11/california-...

California residents attempting to comply with the Golden State’s ever-increasing swamp of firearms laws and regulations should take warning. According to a report out of Bakersfield, a good faith effort to obey the state’s labyrinthine firearm rules will not spare a gun owner in technical violation of the law from the wrath of the California Department of Justice.
Back on May 17, local NBC affiliate KGET reported on the case of farmer Jeffrey Scott Kirschenmann. According to the news outlet, the trouble started back in April when Kirschenmann attempted to register a rifle he owned with the California DOJ.
In California,“assault weapons,” or commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms with features the California State Assembly finds distasteful, are subject to registration. Pursuant to SB 880 and AB 1135, the California DOJ is now accepting registration of firearms lawfully owned prior to January 1, 2017 that fit the state’s new, stricter, definition of an “assault weapon” signed into law in July 2016. The change in definition targets firearms equipped with a “bullet button,” which allows the user to efficiently remove a fixed magazine with the use of a tool. The registration period runs through June 30, 2018.
The KGET report explained that during his attempt to comply with state law, Kirschenmann submitted photos of “an illegally modified” AR-15 to the California DOJ. This prompted an investigation by the DOJ that culminated in a raid of Kirschenmann’s home. Once inside the property, investigators allegedly discovered several unregistered “assault weapons,” a pair of suppressors, and what California terms a “multiburst trigger activator.”
Kirschenmann was arraigned on May 21 and given $150,000 bail. The farmer faces nine felony counts of unlawful possession of an “assault weapon,” two counts of possessing a suppressor, and one charge of possessing a “multiburst trigger activator.” There is nothing in the report to indicate Kirschenmann violated any federal laws or that he has misused his firearms in any manner.
The California DOJ’s persecution of Kirschenmann, following what appears to have been an honest attempt to obtain assistance in complying with state law, will sow further mistrust between the state government and gun owners.
The climate of distrust is understandable. Becerra and his predecessor, Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), have been at the forefront of demonizing gun owners. At Becerra’s 2017 confirmation hearing he told lawmakers that he considered his NRA F- rating “a badge of honor.” Back in February, Harris told the media that Americans can’t take pride in their country due to what she considers insufficient gun control laws.

Since: Apr 18

Oklahoma City, OK

#14 Wednesday Jun 13
javawhey wrote:
<quoted text>

Your "confiscation plan" has nothing behind it. It's likely something you dreamed up while setting behind your little desk, doing homework in your tight whities, while watching re-runs of Ren & Stimpy.

The term LGS (local gun store) has been around a lot longer than you or anyone else. It only proves my point that you and others on here are uneducated and know dick about firearms or the laws we have regarding same.
Acronym Definition
Lets Get Serious about LGS!
Lennox-Gastaut Syndrome,, a dreaded disease, affects many children primarily ages 2-6 across the globe. I have had at times had Leaky Gut Syndrome. It is bothersome, and embarrassing at times.
As most weapons are constructed of Light Gauge Steel (steel frame construction); we need be very much aware of Low Grade Stockpiling of these weapons and ammunition. The Langley Grammar School in the UK can help all of us in communicating with each other more efficiently.

Since: Mar 17

Oklahoma City, OK

#15 Wednesday Jun 13
The Green Watchdog wrote:
<quoted text>

Acronym Definition
Lets Get Serious about LGS!
Lennox-Gastaut Syndrome,, a dreaded disease, affects many children primarily ages 2-6 across the globe. I have had at times had Leaky Gut Syndrome. It is bothersome, and embarrassing at times.
As most weapons are constructed of Light Gauge Steel (steel frame construction); we need be very much aware of Low Grade Stockpiling of these weapons and ammunition. The Langley Grammar School in the UK can help all of us in communicating with each other more efficiently.
Why do you even bother posting, seriously? You obviously think everything's a joke. And you dick about firearms or the laws we already have. You're completely ignorant and uneducated on the subject.
Marauder

United States

#16 Wednesday Jun 13
The Green Watchdog wrote:
<quoted text>

Acronym Definition
Lets Get Serious about LGS!
Lennox-Gastaut Syndrome,, a dreaded disease, affects many children primarily ages 2-6 across the globe. I have had at times had Leaky Gut Syndrome. It is bothersome, and embarrassing at times.
As most weapons are constructed of Light Gauge Steel (steel frame construction); we need be very much aware of Low Grade Stockpiling of these weapons and ammunition. The Langley Grammar School in the UK can help all of us in communicating with each other more efficiently.
Dog, you have no room to talk Mr GCP...again, your wet dream.

GCP Good Clinical Practice
GCP Ground Control Point
GCP Global Consciousness Project
GCP Global Carbon Project
GCP Granulocyte Chemotactic Protein
GCP Grand Central Parkway (New York)
GCP Gateway Control Protocol
GCP Glutamate Carboxypeptidase
GCP Grand Central Partnership
GCP Google Conversion Professional (website optimization)
GCP Great-Circle Path
GCP Good Combustion Practices
GCP God's Child Project (Bismarck, ND, USA)
GCP Global Canopy Program
GCP Good Catering Practice
GCP ground commander’s pointer (US DoD)
GCP Goddard Corporate Park
GCP Ground Control Processor
GCP Global Catalyst Partners, LP
GCP Grupo de Ciencias Planetarias (Spanish: Planetary Sciences Group; University of the Basque Country; Spain)
GCP Glass-Cloth Phenolic
GCP Green City Project
GCP Global Community Portal (website)
GCP Global Chamber Platform
GCP GLO CRYOHP Payload
GCP Gun Control Panel
GCP Great Circus Parade
GCP Groundwater Characterization Project
GCP Good Coverage Partner (gaming)
GCP Get Character Placement (windows programming)
GCP Golden Cheesepie
GCP Gross Corporate Product (sales and all other revenues)
GCP Ground Control Position
GCP Ground Control Planning

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/GCP

Don't see Gun Confiscation Plan anywhere in that list...idiot.

Since: Apr 18

Oklahoma City, OK

#17 Wednesday Jun 13
Did not mean to 100% insult and get many riled up just by being light hearted only y response to others. Will be morbid, dull, and listless on future post.
Marauder

United States

#18 Wednesday Jun 13
The Green Watchdog wrote:
Did not mean to 100% insult and get many riled up just by being light hearted only y response to others. Will be morbid, dull, and listless on future post.
Don't forget ignorant...but you could fix that by doing some research into the subject matter you desire to make changes to. It may help to listen and comprehend some of the posts from those posting here that have more knowledge than you and I. Of course your references to imposing violence and force against those exercising their individual rights will be responded to as you have seen.

Since: Mar 17

Oklahoma City, OK

#19 Wednesday Jun 13
The Green Watchdog wrote:
Did not mean to 100% insult and get many riled up just by being light hearted only y response to others. Will be morbid, dull, and listless on future post.
"Marauder" got it right, do some research. If you really want to see change, become more informed about the industry, the laws etc.. Part of that research should be visits to a gun store, go to a range even. They don't "teach" this stuff in school (like they should). All you're doing by making statements (like your previous one) is showing ignorance towards the subject and others with a more extensive knowledge than most could hope for.

It astonishes me to see a handful of people on here continuously attack the ones with experience (current/former military, LEO's .. you name it) and in reality, they themselves know aquat about guns or the laws regarding them. Even more so for the ones that don't live in the US. But somehow, it's all of these people that "know" everything there is to know about guns, laws and our Constitution. They do it namely to just "fit in," when what they're actually doing is looking like total idiots.

You want to be taken serious and that's fine, but acting a fool doesn't help prove your views. I remember personally offering to sit down and have a discussion, in person. No acknowledgement...

Since: Apr 18

Oklahoma City, OK

#20 Thursday Jun 14
Marauder wrote:
<quoted text>

Don't forget ignorant...but you could fix that by doing some research into the subject matter you desire to make changes to. It may help to listen and comprehend some of the posts from those posting here that have more knowledge than you and I. Of course your references to imposing violence and force against those exercising their individual rights will be responded to as you have seen.
Research into any subject matter is important for success of what one wants to accomplish. I am committed in learning both sides of this critically important issue. We need a team effort, not polarization. In addition, it has never been my intent to encourage forceful measures to insure compliance with any existing or proposed laws.
Marauder

United States

#21 Thursday Jun 14
The Green Watchdog wrote:
<quoted text> Research into any subject matter is important for success of what one wants to accomplish. I am committed in learning both sides of this critically important issue. We need a team effort, not polarization. In addition, it has never been my intent to encourage forceful measures to insure compliance with any existing or proposed laws.
Well first you should re-evaluate your use of Gun Confiscation Plan GCP. That is an immediate red flag of someone that doesn't know or understand the Bill of Rights and it's purpose. I would recommend first to read the Preamble to the Bill of Rights. It provides the reasoning and purpose in the founders own words. After you read that, ask if you have questions.

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