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Major shift as Trump opens way for Medicaid work requirement

There are 129 comments on the WRIC-TV Richmond story from Thursday Jan 11, titled Major shift as Trump opens way for Medicaid work requirement. In it, WRIC-TV Richmond reports that:

In a major policy shift that could affect millions of low-income people, the Trump administration said Thursday it is offering a path for states that want to seek work requirements on Medicaid recipients. Seema Verma, head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said work and community involvement can make a positive difference in people's lives and in their health.

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Maybe But

Beverly, MA

#1 Thursday Jan 11
Many receive Medicaid because they are physically unable to work.

It all sounds fiscally responsible until the real cost of enforcement to the government is considered.

It may very well cost more to implement than it saves.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#2 Thursday Jan 11
Asking those that are able and can work, but just don't want to, to help with their costs is progressively outrageous.
Red Crosse

Wilmington, IL

#3 Thursday Jan 11
This is the first step toward returning people to the work force. We have plenty of jobs, and they can well support themselves. We might have to rehab a million or so. We have people on the street providing for whatever they can. It isn't fair that we have people on the dole sitting in a warm place. Work, or suffer the consequences.
anonymous

Los Angeles, CA

#4 Thursday Jan 11
Great. Force the sick to take your cr@p minimum wage jobs so you can make the numbers look good.

Everyone else still knows that you haven't done doo-dah with your deregulation except allow the stockholders to move more assets out of the country.
tomin cali

Fresno, CA

#5 Thursday Jan 11
there is no reason to give any abled body adult a free ride.it makes sense to make those who can work for everything. we have many who have lived their lives off others never attempting to pull their own weight .

“4 years of Libs in agony!”

Since: Jan 11

Lake Geneva, WI

#6 Thursday Jan 11
Maybe But wrote:
Many receive Medicaid because they are physically unable to work.

It all sounds fiscally responsible until the real cost of enforcement to the government is considered.

It may very well cost more to implement than it saves.
There's many that the only thing that's "disabled" is their work ethic.

Just because you're life skills only qualify you to do the job of a trained ape doesn't mean we need to provide your healthcare.

“4 years of Libs in agony!”

Since: Jan 11

Lake Geneva, WI

#7 Thursday Jan 11
I wonder how many of those so called "low income" people can afford

beer
smokes
cable tv
an X-box
"bling"
tats

but "just can't afford" health insurance......

Life is all about choices.
tomin cali

Fresno, CA

#8 Thursday Jan 11
BHM5267 wrote:
I wonder how many of those so called "low income" people can afford

beer
smokes
cable tv
an X-box
"bling"
tats

but "just can't afford" health insurance......

Life is all about choices.
same can be said of those getting welfare section 8 or any of the social services meant to be a hand up not a career. at one time these programs did in home inspections,those folks sign a contract giving right to search.
anonymous

San Diego, CA

#9 Thursday Jan 11
BHM5267 wrote:
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There's many that the only thing that's "disabled" is their work ethic.

Just because you're life skills only qualify you to do the job of a trained ape doesn't mean we need to provide your healthcare.
There are some people who are very adept until they become exposed to a dangerous work environment. Then there are others who grew up being spoiled prigs who can't bear to eat anything but buttered noodles or tortillas with melted cheese and now can't work because mommy isn't a senator. Guess who is going to get the Medicaid on this new plan? You don't get two guesses as to which one has the darker complexion.

“4 years of Libs in agony!”

Since: Jan 11

Lake Geneva, WI

#10 Thursday Jan 11
anonymous wrote:
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There are some people who are very adept until they become exposed to a dangerous work environment. Then there are others who grew up being spoiled prigs who can't bear to eat anything but buttered noodles or tortillas with melted cheese and now can't work because mommy isn't a senator. Guess who is going to get the Medicaid on this new plan? You don't get two guesses as to which one has the darker complexion.
What does a "darker complexion" have to do with anything?

I'll bet my paycheck that it wouldn't matter if your were in the hood or a trailer park, you'd here the same tale of "I con't take that job, it would screw up my benefits"......
Just a Thought

Beverly, MA

#11 Thursday Jan 11
RustyS wrote:
Asking those that are able and can work, but just don't want to, to help with their costs is progressively outrageous.
Nope, it would be great to have folks work for benefits like welfare and Medicaid if they are able.

Many times, folks receiving these benefits are actively trying to find work and not successful.

Currently our unemployment rate is low. So where will they work if all the jobs are taken?

Will the Government create jobs? Who will supervise?

Programs like that cost money to implement.

Nothing in government is very efficient.

So if you want less government, this may not be for you.
Just a Thought

Beverly, MA

#12 Thursday Jan 11
BHM5267 wrote:
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There's many that the only thing that's "disabled" is their work ethic.

Just because you're life skills only qualify you to do the job of a trained ape doesn't mean we need to provide your healthcare.
Not my healthcare. You are making assumptions about me and I am not the problem. Have a job, and pay for my healthcare.

So, why is it so difficult for you to imagine that some of us who are working, paying taxes and our way have compassion for those who cannot.

And if you do not want to pay the taxes that provide healthcare to those in need, you need to also lobby for the right of hospitals to turn away patients.

As it is now, hospitals must treat first and ask about payment later.

Hospitals donít get to make that choice as the law is written now.

So if they have to treat and donít get paid, they pass that cost onto you through higher bills and higher premiums.

Ultimately you will pay now or pay later.

Write your congressional representatives and ask them to change the law so that hospitals must have proof of payment before treating any patient for any reason. Conscious or unconscious, too bad. If they cannot pay, let them die.

If that is the kind of world you want to live in, that makes you pretty selfish and unrealistic.
Just a Thought

Beverly, MA

#13 Thursday Jan 11
BHM5267 wrote:
I wonder how many of those so called "low income" people can afford

beer
smokes
cable tv
an X-box
"bling"
tats

but "just can't afford" health insurance......

Life is all about choices.
And you are choosing to be a jerk. Thanks for clarifying.

“4 years of Libs in agony!”

Since: Jan 11

Lake Geneva, WI

#14 Thursday Jan 11
Just a Thought wrote:
<quoted text>

Not my healthcare. You are making assumptions about me and I am not the problem. Have a job, and pay for my healthcare.

So, why is it so difficult for you to imagine that some of us who are working, paying taxes and our way have compassion for those who cannot.

And if you do not want to pay the taxes that provide healthcare to those in need, you need to also lobby for the right of hospitals to turn away patients.

As it is now, hospitals must treat first and ask about payment later.

Hospitals donít get to make that choice as the law is written now.

So if they have to treat and donít get paid, they pass that cost onto you through higher bills and higher premiums.

Ultimately you will pay now or pay later.

Write your congressional representatives and ask them to change the law so that hospitals must have proof of payment before treating any patient for any reason. Conscious or unconscious, too bad. If they cannot pay, let them die.

If that is the kind of world you want to live in, that makes you pretty selfish and unrealistic.
I used "you" as a general term, not meant to be directed at your person.

Actually, hospitals only are required to treat first in the emergency room, they do have right of refusal for everything else.

Why is it that people are expected to pay all their other bills but get a pass on healthcare? We wouldn't allow people to just decide to not pay their credit cards, mortgage, or auto loan, but seem to think that telling the hospital to F-off is perfectly fine.

I've personally seen WAY too many people who manage to afford the "perks" of life while being on Medicaid. All I'm asking is that before one comes to the government (taxpayer) with their hand out that take every step to pay for it themselves.

“4 years of Libs in agony!”

Since: Jan 11

Lake Geneva, WI

#15 Thursday Jan 11
Just a Thought wrote:
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And you are choosing to be a jerk. Thanks for clarifying.
One man's "jerk" in another man's not being played for a fool.
anonymous

Los Angeles, CA

#16 Thursday Jan 11
BHM5267 wrote:
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What does a "darker complexion" have to do with anything?

I'll bet my paycheck that it wouldn't matter if your were in the hood or a trailer park, you'd here the same tale of "I con't take that job, it would screw up my benefits"......
..and if taking a job causes the individual to be in a worse financial state, why wouldn't you expect to hear that? It's not their fault that the people who run Medicaid are more concerned with their welfare than the people who establish the minimum wage. Sounds like a shell game for government supported slave labor to me.

As long as a disproportionate number of "those people" are from the hood and not the trailer park, there's no reason for anyone to see it as anything other than slavery. Sure, we all know that some people aren't worth more than minimum wage, but that doesn't mean you have a right to drive the medically needy to early graves for profit. That's just genocidal lipstick on a pig to pat yourself on the back for offering jobs that people can't live on..

The problem is that businesses are too interested in the minimum wage job market. Just because you aren't running your business in "the hood" doesn't mean that you aren't targeting the people there. If the medically needy could live with family who had real jobs, it might not matter so much but.....

I think you kind of like things this way. If you start a race war, you can definitely fight it on your own.

Trump promised real jobs. The only ones he provided were for his family. Screw him.
Retribution

Philadelphia, PA

#17 Thursday Jan 11
RustyS wrote:
Asking those that are able and can work, but just don't want to, to help with their costs is progressively outrageous.
Actually most people who qualify for Medicaid and are insured by the program have jobs.

That was the objective of states expanding Medicaid services under ACA .
Retribution

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Thursday Jan 11
BHM5267 wrote:
I wonder how many of those so called "low income" people can afford

beer
smokes
cable tv
an X-box
"bling"
tats

but "just can't afford" health insurance......

Life is all about choices.
You're not much of a politically astute citizen of the United States are you?

In jurisdictions where legislatures expanded the Medicaid program for ACA the maximum income for a single person in $16,663 to receive Medicaid coverage.

If the jurisdiction legislatures refused to expand Medicaid the income maximum is $10,000

Those are the people who incomes exempts them from the penalty.

There are less than 6 million people annually who earn income in excess of the amount to be penalized for failure to purchase healthcare insurance.
Red Crosse

Wilmington, IL

#19 Thursday Jan 11
We aren't talking about the sick. We are talking about the lazy, and the shiftless perfectly able to work, but would rather sit on the sofa, and guzzle beer until the government gives them money for more beer. Mommies that have more, and more children for bigger welfare checks Perfectly healthy lazy women. Normal women work, and Granny, or a sitter cares for their children. What makes these lazy women any better then others?
Red Crosse

Wilmington, IL

#20 Thursday Jan 11
OMG, the gravy train is finally pulling into the Station.

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