Beth Fiss's office staff

Beth Fiss's office staff

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Billboard

Smithfield, RI

#1 Wednesday Apr 4
Picture of Fiss's new staff on a billboard by the new BP on 31W.
Concerned

Nashville, TN

#2 Wednesday Apr 4
Billboard wrote:
Picture of Fiss's new staff on a billboard by the new BP on 31W.
I heard there are new rules you can’t hire family, but it was okay when the current one hired her family. The office staff will remain the same IMO. I heard most of them are pulling for Fiss, so who knows? Silence is golden right now! Two hour ‘wine & dines’ at lunchtime in BG esp IF on tax payer money doesn’t change minds. Heck yeah! I would take advantage of them too! Have you noticed every post about ‘the other one’ are removed, but Beth has nothing to hide. That shows who holds up under pressure.

I do think it is illegal to hire immediate family members, so try to start more rumors. That one doesn’t work.
Billboard

Smithfield, RI

#3 Wednesday Apr 4
Concerned wrote:
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I heard there are new rules you can’t hire family, but it was okay when the current one hired her family. The office staff will remain the same IMO. I heard most of them are pulling for Fiss, so who knows? Silence is golden right now! Two hour ‘wine & dines’ at lunchtime in BG esp IF on tax payer money doesn’t change minds. Heck yeah! I would take advantage of them too! Have you noticed every post about ‘the other one’ are removed, but Beth has nothing to hide. That shows who holds up under pressure.

I do think it is illegal to hire immediate family members, so try to start more rumors. That one doesn’t work.
sounds like her

Since: Dec 17

Hopkinsville, KY

#4 Wednesday Apr 4
Concerned wrote:
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I heard there are new rules you can’t hire family, but it was okay when the current one hired her family. The office staff will remain the same IMO. I heard most of them are pulling for Fiss, so who knows? Silence is golden right now! Two hour ‘wine & dines’ at lunchtime in BG esp IF on tax payer money doesn’t change minds. Heck yeah! I would take advantage of them too! Have you noticed every post about ‘the other one’ are removed, but Beth has nothing to hide. That shows who holds up under pressure.

I do think it is illegal to hire immediate family members, so try to start more rumors. That one doesn’t work.
Not taking sides, just reporting facts: A court ruling regarding PVA's established that hiring family members in an elected officials own office is permitted. And factually, right here in Franklin, Pam Womack's sister worked in her office for many years. Here is the reference for the court ruling; reasonable reading of the ruling would extend to the Circuit Clerk's office, too (both elected officials are technically considered to be state employees, not county employees).

Commission v. Felicia M. Wooten, et al., No. 2013-CA-000524-MR (Ky.
Ct. App. 2014).

Now, on another point that really does apply to the scenario posed in this thread -- promising someone something of value (including a job) in exchange for political support/votes is violating the KY constitution (section 150). It's a felony. I would focus on that point if I were you.

[Believe it or not, this always opinionated, sometimes smartass reporter actually does know what he is talking about.]
Concerned

Nashville, TN

#5 Wednesday Apr 4
Billboard wrote:
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sounds like her
I will say on any candidate’s behalf, PLEASE don’t park your election sign in the front of either funeral home, esp when there are families’ loved one there. I find this very distasteful, IN MY OPINION.
What I heard

Nashville, TN

#6 Wednesday Apr 4
Gold City reporter wrote:
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Not taking sides, just reporting facts: A court ruling regarding PVA's established that hiring family members in an elected officials own office is permitted. And factually, right here in Franklin, Pam Womack's sister worked in her office for many years. Here is the reference for the court ruling; reasonable reading of the ruling would extend to the Circuit Clerk's office, too (both elected officials are technically considered to be state employees, not county employees).

Commission v. Felicia M. Wooten, et al., No. 2013-CA-000524-MR (Ky.
Ct. App. 2014).

Now, on another point that really does apply to the scenario posed in this thread -- promising someone something of value (including a job) in exchange for political support/votes is violating the KY constitution (section 150). It's a felony. I would focus on that point if I were you.

[Believe it or not, this always opinionated, sometimes smartass reporter actually does know what he is talking about.]
Actually heard one of the PVA candidates plans to hire their sister, but it would not be permitted. From what I understand, a ruling was made after Debbie was hired and since she was already an employee, they allowed her to stay. I know at one time several PVA were fined for hiring family a few years back. But if you remember, Bud Grow and his wife worked together for years in the County Clerk office. It always worked out fine. I would say if you want to be elected again, it would not be a good move. With Pam, she never had any opposition, so it didn’t matter.

I did not think Kentucky had a nepotism law. Some states do. So I honestly do not know, but just what I was told about one candidate because I questioned that Debbie worked there. Was told laws had changed.

I honestly think Beth is working too hard to do something that foolish!
Likes happy endings

United States

#7 Friday Apr 6
What I heard wrote:
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Actually heard one of the PVA candidates plans to hire their sister, but it would not be permitted. From what I understand, a ruling was made after Debbie was hired and since she was already an employee, they allowed her to stay. I know at one time several PVA were fined for hiring family a few years back. But if you remember, Bud Grow and his wife worked together for years in the County Clerk office. It always worked out fine. I would say if you want to be elected again, it would not be a good move. With Pam, she never had any opposition, so it didn’t matter.

I did not think Kentucky had a nepotism law. Some states do. So I honestly do not know, but just what I was told about one candidate because I questioned that Debbie worked there. Was told laws had changed.

I honestly think Beth is working too hard to do something that foolish!
Oh my. That must be Jeremy Estep who wants to hire his sister? If so, that wouldn't be good.

Since: Dec 17

Hopkinsville, KY

#8 Saturday Apr 7
Likes happy endings wrote:
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Oh my. That must be Jeremy Estep who wants to hire his sister? If so, that wouldn't be good.
Folks, if you are voting in the Republican primary, you have a better option for PVA than Jeremy Estep. A much better option.
My thoughts

Nashville, TN

#9 Sunday Apr 8
Gold City reporter wrote:
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Folks, if you are voting in the Republican primary, you have a better option for PVA than Jeremy Estep. A much better option.
Who do you suggest and why?
Voter for growth

Nashville, TN

#10 Monday Apr 16
My thoughts wrote:
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Who do you suggest and why?
Doug Jeffers, the veteran!
Billboard

Smithfield, RI

#11 Wednesday
Another billboard of the Fiss office staff by Family Video. Where is the money coming from? Have never seen a local candidate with billboards.
Vote for Fiss

United States

#12 Wednesday
Billboard wrote:
Another billboard of the Fiss office staff by Family Video. Where is the money coming from? Have never seen a local candidate with billboards.
$300 for a billboard for a month is pretty cheap advertising. The other one has an ad in the paper every week. Guarantee that newspaper ad is costing a heck a lot more than the billboard. And she has billboard too, so what is the difference? To me her efforts show she wants the position, the other one spends all her time on topix having posts removed. Fiss all the way!

Before you ask, I am not family, kinfolk, only met this young lady while she was campaigning, but she impressed me. Her friendly and kind spirit was so inviting. And so genuine. I had heard of her but to actually meet her made my decision. The other one has never been friendly to me when I go in that office.
Fed up

Hopkinsville, KY

#15 Yesterday
Vote for Fiss wrote:
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$300 for a billboard for a month is pretty cheap advertising. The other one has an ad in the paper every week. Guarantee that newspaper ad is costing a heck a lot more than the billboard. And she has billboard too, so what is the difference? To me her efforts show she wants the position, the other one spends all her time on topix having posts removed. Fiss all the way!

Before you ask, I am not family, kinfolk, only met this young lady while she was campaigning, but she impressed me. Her friendly and kind spirit was so inviting. And so genuine. I had heard of her but to actually meet her made my decision. The other one has never been friendly to me when I go in that office.
Kind spirit? Genuine? Meeting her made your decision?

In Mary Thomas Vincent's defense, the bulletproof partition sort of kills the "friendly" atmosphere.
Vote for Fiss

Nashville, TN

#17 20 hrs ago
Fed up wrote:
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Kind spirit? Genuine? Meeting her made your decision?

In Mary Thomas Vincent's defense, the bulletproof partition sort of kills the "friendly" atmosphere.
Is that not why they campaign? Yes, after speaking with her, asking her questions and no visit from other candidate, yes it made up my mind, unless the other one takes the time to come by and allow me to ask her the same questions, then I can make a fair decision, but yes, right now I will vote for Fiss.

I have no clue what you mean by bulletproof partition sort of kills the friendly atmosphere.
Fed up

Hopkinsville, KY

#18 18 hrs ago
Vote for Fiss wrote:
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Is that not why they campaign? Yes, after speaking with her, asking her questions and no visit from other candidate, yes it made up my mind, unless the other one takes the time to come by and allow me to ask her the same questions, then I can make a fair decision, but yes, right now I will vote for Fiss.

I have no clue what you mean by bulletproof partition sort of kills the friendly atmosphere.
If you have been to the Circuit Clerk's office (have you actually been there?), you walk up to a bulletproof teller window and talk through that; you hand documents through a little slot. It isn't an open-air (normal) office like just about every other government and non-government office in these parts. I find the very setup of that office very unfriendly, and that was what I was talking about.
Vote for Fiss

Nashville, TN

#19 17 hrs ago
Fed up wrote:
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If you have been to the Circuit Clerk's office (have you actually been there?), you walk up to a bulletproof teller window and talk through that; you hand documents through a little slot. It isn't an open-air (normal) office like just about every other government and non-government office in these parts. I find the very setup of that office very unfriendly, and that was what I was talking about.
Thank you for explaining. Yes I have been there but it is that way at city hall also, so I just assumed they were behind glass, not bullet proof. Why would they be behind bullet proof glass? You go through security. No gun is going to get past security.

Furthermore, Many of the other girls behind that glass have been very nice to me. Several wave at me, as I know some of them. Does the bullet proof glass keep her from being unfriendly? Actually the girl that waited on me when I got my last license was very friendly although I didn’t know her personally.
Fed up

Hopkinsville, KY

#20 16 hrs ago
Vote for Fiss wrote:
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Thank you for explaining. Yes I have been there but it is that way at city hall also, so I just assumed they were behind glass, not bullet proof. Why would they be behind bullet proof glass? You go through security. No gun is going to get past security.

Furthermore, Many of the other girls behind that glass have been very nice to me. Several wave at me, as I know some of them. Does the bullet proof glass keep her from being unfriendly? Actually the girl that waited on me when I got my last license was very friendly although I didn’t know her personally.
I was merely making reference to the environment. Yes, people can be friendly on each side of the glass. I just don't like the setting much, and I always feel like I'm put the same class as a criminal when I go there. And you are right, city hall does the same sort of thing. Very unfriendly environment (in my opinion).

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