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Arnold Officer Ryan O'Connor Shot by Handcuffed Suspect, Police Say

There are 16 comments on the River Front Times story from Wednesday Dec 6, titled Arnold Officer Ryan O'Connor Shot by Handcuffed Suspect, Police Say. In it, River Front Times reports that:

Fundraisers have been set up to support an Arnold police officer shot on Tuesday by a burglary suspect in his custody.

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Its Crazy

Saint Louis, MO

#1 Wednesday Dec 6
Reports last night were that the suspect still had a gun on him when he had been put in the police car and that's how he was able to shoot the officer, as well as shoot himself to death.
Obviously, officer O'Connor or some other cop didn't properly search the suspect.
How could they miss a gun?! People are already joking about the Arnold Police as "The Keystone Cops".

Since: Jul 08

Florissant

#2 Wednesday Dec 6
We certainly can't reverse what happened in Arnold but here are some ideas that might have an impact on the future.

First, we'll never pass an amendment to overturn the 2nd amendment, much to the chagrin of all the bleeding heart progressives. So why don't we make any crime committed with a gun earn a sentence of 10 years in prison without any chance of early release? If the thug actually shoots a victim during the crime make the sentence 20 years in prison. Since it is the thugs and not the guns who are committing these crimes we would remove from society the real cause of crime.

Second, to house this massive increase in criminals we could take the billions of dollars currently being wasted by our government and use it for construction projects -- building more prisons. That too would pacify the progressives by increasing spending on a form of infrastructure. Ignore them if they have a conniption fit over a reduction in spending on welfare.

Any comments?
Doctor Taco

Greenville, IL

#5 Wednesday Dec 6
Marcus Welby wrote:
We certainly can't reverse what happened in Arnold but here are some ideas that might have an impact on the future.

First, we'll never pass an amendment to overturn the 2nd amendment, much to the chagrin of all the bleeding heart progressives. So why don't we make any crime committed with a gun earn a sentence of 10 years in prison without any chance of early release? If the thug actually shoots a victim during the crime make the sentence 20 years in prison. Since it is the thugs and not the guns who are committing these crimes we would remove from society the real cause of crime.

Second, to house this massive increase in criminals we could take the billions of dollars currently being wasted by our government and use it for construction projects -- building more prisons. That too would pacify the progressives by increasing spending on a form of infrastructure. Ignore them if they have a conniption fit over a reduction in spending on welfare.

Any comments?
The reason these prisons let people out prematurely is because their lobbyists were able to change the law to allow full payment on partial imprisonments.
Fitness Requirement

Saint Louis, MO

#6 Thursday Dec 7
Police departments must have done away with requiring their officers to be physically fit.
It's unbelievable how many fat officers there are in Jefferson County, Arnold, St. Louis County, St. Louis City and Clayton. The criminals can easily outrun them and they all know it.
Doctor Taco

Greenville, IL

#7 Thursday Dec 7
Fitness Requirement wrote:
Police departments must have done away with requiring their officers to be physically fit.
It's unbelievable how many fat officers there are in Jefferson County, Arnold, St. Louis County, St. Louis City and Clayton. The criminals can easily outrun them and they all know it.
On the other hand I know plenty of cops that would outrun, outclimb and outfight you. But you have to ask yourself when you see a really obese police officer "Could I outrun that guy"?

Look at it this way. While they're a drag on the system now, they probably won't make it past 5-10 years after retirement. The average is 7 for a cop. The obese one I would imagine sits at the low end of the scale. Less police pension paid out.....

Since: Jul 08

Florissant

#8 Thursday Dec 7
Doctor Taco wrote:
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On the other hand I know plenty of cops that would outrun, outclimb and outfight you. But you have to ask yourself when you see a really obese police officer "Could I outrun that guy"?
If the situation gets really serious you might have to ask yourself "Could I outrun his bullets?"
Interesting Insight

Saint Louis, MO

#9 Thursday Dec 7
I saw an article discussing this topic and the writer stated several reasons why cops are so fat in America. One of the problems is the police union doesn't like physical fitness requirements, because they want their dues paying members to keep being employed and paying their dues. The long hours sitting and driving around all day aren't conducive to fitness. Neither is the fattening fast food cops grab on the go during their long shifts. Cops don't get enough sleep because of ever changing shift work hours. Lack of sleep also contributes to weight gain. To unwind, cops spend time with fellow cops slugging down beers and eating more junk food. Studies have shown that socializing with fat friends encourages over eating and very little physical exercise.
Many cops, the article said, are denial about their weight gain and think they can perform their duties just as well as when they used to be fit and trim. The writer did note that physically fit cops
do tend to be disgusted by their obese comrades and feel those heavier cops are dishonoring the uniform. A study was sighted that tracks over weight cops who have died on the job due to their wide girth, heart attacks, strokes, etc. Usually if a cop if over weight his or her spouse is as well, do to unhealthy eating habits. One may make the observation that the obesity rate in cops isn't all that
different from the general population of Americans. As the previous poster stated, heavy weight cops don't live that long after retirement. It's interesting that you don't see fat people in the military.
Probably because the military requires a certain level of physical fitness, which is required in order to defend this country.
No Fat Soldiers

Saint Louis, MO

#10 Thursday Dec 7
Saw an interesting statistic that 65% of new recruits could not pass the US Army's physical training test on the first day.

Also saw an article discussing the US Army discharging troops who became fat.
So it doesn't matter how many bullets your gun is carrying. If you're fat,
you're out. Would that be an honorable discharge or a dishonorable discharge?
I would think troops would be embarrassed to be discharged for being fat, because they
could do something about it, if they set their mind to it.
Nope

Saint Louis, MO

#11 Thursday Dec 7
Marcus Welby wrote:
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If the situation gets really serious you might have to ask yourself "Could I outrun his bullets?"
So are you advocating that fat cops should be allowed to shoot suspects in the back if the suspects are fleeing? Cops have gone to prison for doing that, at least the ones who weren't able to cover it up. Usually someone with a camera exposes the crime.

Since: Jul 08

Florissant

#12 Thursday Dec 7
Nope wrote:
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So are you advocating that fat cops should be allowed to shoot suspects in the back if the suspects are fleeing? Cops have gone to prison for doing that, at least the ones who weren't able to cover it up. Usually someone with a camera exposes the crime.
I'm not advocating that the cops shoot anyone but I feel that if a perp is fleeing a lawful arrest he gives up all of his rights. Make of that what you wish.
Due Process

Saint Louis, MO

#13 Thursday Dec 7
Marcus Welby wrote:
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I'm not advocating that the cops shoot anyone but I feel that if a perp is fleeing a lawful arrest he gives up all of his rights. Make of that what you wish.
Yes, I don't have much sympathy for criminals either, but in this country, a person is entitled to due process, to determine guilt and not to be executed by a trigger happy cop because they're fleeing arrest. At lot of stupid people flee arrest for all kinds of stupid reasons and one day one of your loved ones might do something stupid like that because they have mental problems or whatever. You'd be singing a different song if a cop executed your loved one.
Dorian J

Saint Charles, MO

#14 Thursday Dec 7
anytime someone gets shot by a policeman just make up a story that their hands were up and mothers gets a lot of$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$s.

Since: Jul 08

Florissant

#15 Thursday Dec 7
Due Process wrote:
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Yes, I don't have much sympathy for criminals either, but in this country, a person is entitled to due process, to determine guilt and not to be executed by a trigger happy cop because they're fleeing arrest. At lot of stupid people flee arrest for all kinds of stupid reasons and one day one of your loved ones might do something stupid like that because they have mental problems or whatever. You'd be singing a different song if a cop executed your loved one.
Maybe I've watched too many movies in my lifetime where the cop yells "Stop or I'll shoot." The guy doesn't stop so the cop shoots.
Cynical

Saint Louis, MO

#16 Tuesday Dec 12
Its Crazy wrote:
Reports last night were that the suspect still had a gun on him when he had been put in the police car and that's how he was able to shoot the officer, as well as shoot himself to death.
Obviously, officer O'Connor or some other cop didn't properly search the suspect.
How could they miss a gun?! People are already joking about the Arnold Police as "The Keystone Cops".
Bet they cover up it up and the public will never know what really happened.
Interesting

Festus, MO

#17 19 hrs ago
Cynical wrote:
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Bet they cover up it up and the public will never know what really happened.
No no, none of that Police cover up stuff around here. Most Honest People around. But The strange Thing is this is in The Pevely Forum and something isn't right there. Either way I wish Ryan The best.
Doctor Taco

Greenville, IL

#18 10 hrs ago
Interesting wrote:
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No no, none of that Police cover up stuff around here. Most Honest People around. But The strange Thing is this is in The Pevely Forum and something isn't right there. Either way I wish Ryan The best.
What do you mean?
Something isn't right in Pevely?

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