Since: Jul 17

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#1 Thursday Dec 7
I never thought that we at team Overseer would ever agree with the Courier Journal but if there is anyone out there that doesn't have some trepidation about the citizens investing over 20% of our money in "serial entrepreneur" Bouchard and Braidy Industry, then you just don't get it.

I hope beyond hope that this strange, non-traditional entrepreneur does what he says but so far it has only been him spending our money and taking our local development land at fire sale prices to create an illusion of hope. He is very good at what he does, and what he does is make himself money then move on to the next project.

Can he produce aluminum in this country for less than half the cost of anyone else that is in the business? I don't know but have a lot of questions and suspicions, just like the bi-partisan questions from our State elected officials. This was all done in secrecy and outside the confines of normal funding. Only time will tell but if someone doesn't have a measure of doubt or suspicion then they shouldn't be elected or hired to serve the citizens best interest. We in this region have had our share of "carpet baggers" and those selling "magic bean" projects. Let us keep our hope but also our senses and carefully scrutinize the expenditure of our money as this plays out. He is "hoping for development by 2012". It is a long time off and our money is already spent.

Bouchard is not in this for us folks. Let us hope after he takes his money from this project and moves on, he leaves enough on the table to improve our area. Take off the rose colored glasses, shed the desperation attitude and realistically look at this project as if it were one being built in Louisville or Lexington while using your money but with little tangible facts know (including investors, money, etc.) or fiscal oversight and accountability.

Here is the article and we have to agree on so many unknowns. Public money is meant to be transparent and spent with safe guards. Government doesn't get to spend taxpayer money to pick winners and losers in private business.

Is Bouchard a god or a Mr. Haney? Time will tell.

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/po...

Since: Jul 17

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#2 Thursday Dec 7
Correction: The line above should read * He is "hoping for development by 2020".*

I thought I better correct it before some millennial chimes in claiming victory in the discussion due to their spotting a typo.

AintGr8asUthink

Ashland, KY

#3 Thursday Dec 7
Not sure if this is on topic or not, it seems that this area in general (tri-state) has basically ran off all industries that once flourished here. Many of the industries that were here also became outdated to also make matters worse. I believe that if the local government officials weren’t so full of themselves and would have looked toward the future of this area and the people of this area, we would not have 3 governing bodies here, we would have one large government (I am speaking about Boyd county, Ashland and Catlettsburg) and now there is seeking out of industry to try and rebuild this area. Maybe if it wasn’t so close minded and as mentioned earlier, Uni-government was started years ago maybe this area could compete with Lexington and other areas of the state. I as well as others do hope that Braidy Industry does well here and does good for the area, it just seems as though it is putting all your eggs in one basket, so to speak. But also at this time monies being invested belong to the public, what happened to the businesses having enough trust in the area thinking that their business will flourish and invest their own money completely? Is this something of years gone by? I know that if you give me someone else’s money and tell me that “whatever you do with it all will be ok. It doesn’t matter if the investment pans out and makes money or loses money. Again would be nice to see businesses come back to this area and help what seems to be an economic downturn of this area.
Questioner

United States

#4 Friday Dec 8
I don’t think we have experienced enough economic development people to even be able to discern if this a good idea. After years of lackluster Econ development from the city(unless it involved alcohol sales or friends) Braidy falls into their laps and suddenly they are geniuses. I do not think a communications degree or elementary education degree is adequate. I can’t think of anyone I trust on this. But what will happen will happen and I hope it’s on the up and up.
Inept but popular

Ashland, KY

#5 Saturday Dec 9
Why do voters feel that teachers, preachers, librarians, and school administrators are best selections for public sector management and economic development?

These people only have experience in spending other peoples money.

Probably because those that have the ability to run a city or county don't have time to waste in political office. It is why Ashland commission meets during normal work time, none of them are necessary anywhere else.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result but never achieving it. We keep putting people in office based on popularity and not ability. We get what we vote for both locally and nationally.
Questioner

United States

#6 Saturday Dec 9
Inept but popular wrote:
Why do voters feel that teachers, preachers, librarians, and school administrators are best selections for public sector management and economic development?

These people only have experience in spending other peoples money.

Probably because those that have the ability to run a city or county don't have time to waste in political office. It is why Ashland commission meets during normal work time, none of them are necessary anywhere else.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result but never achieving it. We keep putting people in office based on popularity and not ability. We get what we vote for both locally and nationally.
Facebook “likes” and “well, we knew their daddy” have too heavy an influence on hiring and elections. I will never understand the clout that headstones in Ashland cemeteries have on who is hired at local government levels. And FB photo ops can’t determine a person’s knowledge of economic realities and how to spend money, as evidenced by the &300,000 passed out to non profits without realizing the bus system’s insolvency or future pension costs this past budget session at the city. The commission fight with a commissioner on TV over raises said it all.
Gr8fulVoter

Ashland, KY

#7 Saturday Dec 9
Inept but popular wrote:
Why do voters feel that teachers, preachers, librarians, and school administrators are best selections for public sector management and economic development?

These people only have experience in spending other peoples money.

Probably because those that have the ability to run a city or county don't have time to waste in political office. It is why Ashland commission meets during normal work time, none of them are necessary anywhere else.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result but never achieving it. We keep putting people in office based on popularity and not ability. We get what we vote for both locally and nationally.
Also don’t forget coaches (or should it really be former coaches) and people that can’t have an original thought that is their own, but needs a thought spoon fed to them and pretend that they made this great epiphany. Would be nice to see some changes and have them work together, doesn’t necessarily mean they have to agree on everything one person comes up with, but would discuss, not
argue like little kids, and then come to conclusions, again maybe agreeing or disagreeing in a respectable manner. Everyone complains about this relationship or that relationship between commissioners and employees, my question is,“How many of you complainers actually go out and vote when it is time, or just sit back let everyone else make their picks then complain?” No matter the election if
a person feels that they need to complain the first
thing to do is vote. Otherwise your whining and complaining does not count. Again as stated they can go out to the cemetery and get a few names and put them on the upcoming ballot and get them elected. Also have noticed that certain City departments have also in the past or present endorsing candidates, if research is done it
isn’t difficult to figure out why. Around 10 times out of 10 there is connection, kin of some sort, rather it be spouse, parent, offspring, cousins or being a former employee of the department that is endorsing them. So if people want change you need to be that change and go vote, or allow the same ones to put the same people back in where they are.

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