Should Blacks stop celebrating Black history month?

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Since: Aug 16

York, PA

#1 Aug 26, 2016
As a black person I think this particular holiday harms the Black race more than helps. I think by celebrating black history month our race is just riding on the coat-tails of Black people who accomplished something. I don't think everyone should get bragging rights if they didn't actually accomplish anything. That being said I recently saw a video on YouTube about Raven Simone on The View people were unhappy about how she represented the Black Community. Why does it seem like every Black person in the media automatically becomes the representative for all Blacks? Can't we represent ourselves. I think people who need others to make them look good are kind of helping to create stereotypes and prejudice.
Noni Alexander

Chicago, IL

#5 Aug 27, 2016
Since most of "black history" is made up of myths, gross exaggerations, and outright lies told to blacks to make them feel better about themselves, yes: Black History Month is a total joke.
seerresources

Fort Worth, TX

#8 Aug 28, 2016
This was prepared for my students with some deliberate errors inserted, how well is your knowledge of this period in Africa? Can you detect the errors?

The European Scramble for Africa

Berlin conference 1884-5
The idea of an international conference to settle the territorial disputes arising from European activities in the Congo region, first suggested by Portugal, was later taken up by Bismarck, who, after sounding the opinions of the other powers, was encouraged to bring it about.

The conference was held at Berlin between 15 November 1884 and 26 of February 1885. No African state was invited, never the less, 2 crashed the party figurtively.

Article 34 of the Berlin Act, the document signed by all participants held that...
"any European nation which in the future, took possession of an African coast or declared a protectorate there had to notify such action to the signatory powers of the Berlin Act in order to have its claims ratified.

Aricle 35 stipulated that an occupier of any such coastal possessions had also to demonstrate that it possessed sufficient authority there to protect existing rights..." Which meant military action on the part of the claimant, otherwise, any rival had the clear leadway to take that territory by force.

Liberia: the goose that laid the golden egg.
Founded and settled by ex- slaves from the United States shortly after the US civil war.
During the cruel and greedy scramble for Africa, the United States remained Liberia's primary ally and protector. But, even with the limited US support and Liberia's sharp diplomatic skills, much of the once vast Liberian frontier was lost to colonial aggression.

Upto about 1914 the Liberian military consisted of a poorly trained militia of 2,000 men, 2 gunboats, with limited US naval support and some military advisors -- even so the Liberians were able to establish themselves as major players in the conquest of West African territory...

God fight for us!
The small Liberian miltia set out to open new territory for the struggling new nation seeking its place on a already crowded coastline. The Liberians believed they had the protection of God and a manifest destiny.

In battle after the battle the Liberians won victory after victory -- the Grebo nation in 1910, the Kisi in 1913, the Kpele and Bandi from 1911-1914, the Kru in 1915-16, the Gio and Mano people between 1918-19 and several other tribal lands were added -- which soon made Liberia a highly desirable prize for invasion by her European neighbors.

Throughout the last 3 decades of the 19th century, the imperial powers sent mission upon mission to Liberia with offers to pay Liberian debts, if, Liberia would agree to come under their protection making Liberia no-longer a sovereign nation, but ex- american slaves would never except that proposal.

So bully tactics was then applied, first by British land grabbers between 1869- and 1912, than German gunboats prowled the coastline between 1881 - 1912.

Liberia survived by using old African diplolamtic tactics of playing one European power against the other -- and US naval support helped back up Liberia's defenses.

Liberia like Ethiopia succeeded in maintaining her independence, while faced with serious internal economic and social problems, but Liberia weathered the storm of European imperialism, greatly weaken, but still a free sovereign state.

Sadly other African states weren't so lucky...
seerresources

Fort Worth, TX

#9 Aug 28, 2016
The Gold Coast {now modern Ghana}
Nowhere in West Africa had there been a longer tradition of confrontation between Africans and Europeans than in the Gold Coast between the Asante {Empire} and the British {Empire}. This started in the 1760s and culminated in a military engagement in 1824 in which the Asante defeated British forces and their allies and killed their commander, Sir Charles MacCarthy, the then governor of the Gold Coast. Two years later, the British avenged this defeat at the battle of Dodowa followed by an uneasy peace.

In 1850 and 1863, war was narrowly averted but, between 1869 and 1872, the Asante attacked and occupied virtually all the southern and coastal states of the Gold Coast. To beat back the Asante, the British government launched one of the best organized campaigns of that period under the command of one of Britain's most famous military officers: General Garnet Wolseley.

Armed with the latest weapons Wolseley forced the Asante back across the Pra river and British forces for the first time were able to penetrate and sack Kumasi {the Asante capital} in February 1874 after a fierce last-ditch effort by the Asante at Amoafo near present Bekwai.

Death of an empire
For the Asante, the defeat of 1873 had far reaching consequences...first the ruling Asantehene (or Emperor) was removed, then his successor died 7 years later, next came civil war over royal succession, lasting until 1888, when Prempeh I emerged as the Empire's new Asantehene -- time has run out.

By 1888 the Asante Empire were forced to recognize the independence of all its vassal states south of the Pra river and other vassals to the north of the Volta river were soon granted their independence.

Even though the Asante had regained its core states, which greatly alarmed the British, French & German aggression badly crippled the Asante military. Britain, made a offer of protection, which Prempeh I firmly refused, but kept his diplomatic doors open.

On April 3 1895 the Asante sent a high powered diplomatic mission to London that was flatly rejected by Queen Victoria, and Prempeh was given an ultimatum to seat a British authority in Kumasi and pay to Britain 50,000 ounces of gold for war indemnity imposed on Asante, following its defeat in the 1874.

The Asante rejection of the ultimatum ignited a British military response which ended with Kumasi being occupied in 1900 and Prempeh's court deposed and exiled to the Seychelles islands. The Asante Empire was dead. And from then on Kumasi was made the heart of the British Gold Coast Colony, until its independence was granted following the 2nd world war.

But on the horn of Africa the struggle for supremacy made Ethiopia the most daring contender....
seerresources

Fort Worth, TX

#10 Aug 28, 2016
Ethiopia: the fighting Lion
Around the 8th century BC, a kingdom known as D'mt was established in northern Ethiopia and Eritrea, with its capital at Yeha in northern Ethiopia.

After the fall of D`mt in the 5th century BC, the plateau came to be dominated by small city states: until one, Axum, rose up to become the ancestor of medieval and modern Ethiopia. During the first century BC Axum had established bases on the northern highlands of Ethiopia's plateau and from there expanded her influence southward.

The Persian religious figure Mani listed Axum with Rome, Persia, and China as one of the four great powers of his day. Both Persia and India had trade relations with Axum, but her closest ally was a Christian settelment (of Syrians) based in Yemen and through them trade & alliance with Christian Byzantinum was initiated.

It was the early 4th century AD when the Axumite King Ezana was converted by Syrian missionaries out of Yemen, thereby making Christianty the official state religion.

Axum controlled most of modern-day Yemen and southern Arabia, most of northern Sudan, Ethiopia, Eritrea and most of the African horn facing the indian ocean, her navy patroled the Aden Gulf, the RedSea, the Somali coast, Indian & Persian waters 300 AD - 700 AD.

The first continuous relations with a European country began in 1508, with the arrival of Portugal to the African horn, which also brought the Roman Jesuits to East Africa.

In 1624 Emperor Susenyos converted to Roman Catholicism and years of revolt and civil unrest shook the Axum empire, resulting in thousands of deaths, until the 25th of June 1632, when Emperor Fasilides came to the throne and expelled the Jesuits and restored the powers of Ethiopia's Orthodox Church -- but he also broke all tides with Europe.

Ethiopia's isolation lasted until about 1855 when a British mission from Egypt, successufully gained an alliance between the two nations; however, it was not until the reign of Emperor Tewodros II, a modernized Ethiopia began to appear in world affairs.

Egypt under the Ottomen Turks was over.
3 April 1884 Britain agreed to return to Ethiopia control of their Sudanese frontier, which the pasha of Egypt was forced to surrender.



seerresources

Fort Worth, TX

#11 Aug 28, 2016
But the value of that agreement was short lived, when in February 1885, Italian troops seized the port town of Massawa on the Red Sea and penetrated Eritrea as far as the villages of Sahati and Wia. They did so with the consent of the British.

The Ethiopian Emperor Yohannes perpared for war with the Italians -- however, British diplomate, Sir Gerald Portal, was dispatched by Queen Victoria to calm the
tension in the region -- but Sir Portal's diplomatic efforts, was too little to late.

The first Ethio-Italian conflict engaged, 10th of March 1889 with Yohannes slain by a stray bullet. Ethiopia fell into chaos when news of the Emperor's death swept the country, afterwards, Italian ships placed a blockade on Ethiopia's shore line, and began preparations for a permanent settlement in Eritrea.

The 1880s marked the Scramble for Africa, the modernisation of Ethiopia, and the build up of her military might, which peaked when Menelik II came to the throne.

May 2 1889 the Wuchale treaty signed by Menelik II; gave Ethiopia, the right to import arms and ammunition through Italian held territory. But. The most fateful part of the treaty was Article 17, written in 2 languages: Amharic and Italian.

The amharic version named Italy, Ethiopia's mediator, in communications with all European powers, but, the Italian version named Ethiopia as a protectorate, making all Ethiopian sovereignty a possession of Italy.

In support of that claim, the Italian troops crossed the Eritrean border and occupied the Ethiopian town of Adowa in January 1890, then Menelik II was informed that Italy would occupy Adowa, until, Ethiopia recognized Italy's interpretation of the Wuchale treaty.

On 12 Feb. 1893 Ethiopia denounce the Wuchale treaty on news wires.
The Ethiopian army was now in possession of 82,000 rifles and 40 cannons and stockpiles of ammunition -- her military was well trained and ready, also, thanks to Ethiopia's friendship with France and Russia, teams of engineers were employed to administer Menenlik's modernization programs -- a railway was laid, new roads were opened, a new currency circulated, a national bank in 1905, a postal system, telegraph lines, the Menelik II school in 1908, the Menelik II hospital opened 1910, but, there was one obsticle to Menelik's plan for a new modernized Ethiopia. Italy.

The over confident Italians were busy expropriating land in Eritrea, to be divided up among newly arrived Italian settlers.

On the 17th September 1895 Ethiopian troops were moved up to challenge occupied Italian positions. In December the two armies met at Adowa for the final battle. The Italians had every reason to be confident, "superior fire power" that exceeded the Ethiopians by 56 cannons. The Ethiopians had less canons, but more rifles and a much larger infantry.

On both sides there were bodies piled up. The smoke from cannon fire, swept the landscape like a huge fog over the battle lines.
At the end of the day it was a complete victory for Ethiopia.
The enemy loses were; 261 officers, 2,918 non-commission officers, 2,000 allied fighters with 954 missing or deserted. Total enemy loses estimated at 40%. Later, the Italian settlers were all rounded up and shipped back to Italy and the Italians regarded their defeat at Adowa, " a nation disgrace!"

On the 26th October Italy agreed to the anullment of the Wuchale treaty and recognized the absolute independence of Ethiopia and its claim to Eritrea.

The early 20th century was marked by the reign of the Emperor Haile Selassie
who completed the rapid modernisation of Ethiopia — interrupted only by the brief Italian occupation headed by the Facist Mussullini (1936–1941) near the end of WW2.
asset

Long Beach, NY

#12 Nov 6, 2016
Noni Alexander wrote:
Since most of "black history" is made up of myths, gross exaggerations, and outright lies told to blacks to make them feel better about themselves, yes: Black History Month is a total joke.
And you can't have black people feeling good about themselves now can ya. Celebrating pagan holidays like Christmas, etc is what black people shouldn't be celebrating. Black history month should be expanded throughout the year. Teach your children at home because public schools only teach you about the same 3 or 4 people anyhow. They don't dare teach children about before slavery.
I say teach them everyday to stay away from religion, holidays and the entertainment business.
Big Knob

San Diego, CA

#13 Jan 3, 2017
As long as you have a Eurocentric version of His-story then Blks should continue to tell their side of they story from our perspective because much of what we've learned in the public schools was a flat out lie. Besides why are Blks the only group encouraged not to learn from their experiences and History?

Since: Dec 16

Humility

#14 Jan 4, 2017
Just-curious2249 wrote:
As a black person I think this particular holiday harms the Black race more than helps. I think by celebrating black history month our race is just riding on the coat-tails of Black people who accomplished something. I don't think everyone should get bragging rights if they didn't actually accomplish anything. That being said I recently saw a video on YouTube about Raven Simone on The View people were unhappy about how she represented the Black Community. Why does it seem like every Black person in the media automatically becomes the representative for all Blacks? Can't we represent ourselves. I think people who need others to make them look good are kind of helping to create stereotypes and prejudice.
I see Black history month as a reminder of some of the things that our ancestors had to go through. It's like how God used the rainbow as a reminder of the flood
Trumpsboy2017

United States

#15 Jan 4, 2017
SlayWithTheTruth wrote:
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I see Black history month as a reminder of some of the things that our ancestors had to go through. It's like how God used the rainbow as a reminder of the flood
Omg give me a break everybodies ancestors has been threw something why do you blavks have to cry about everything? We wuz kangs.....give me a break,where's white history month?nobody gives a crap about black history month.
Trumpsboy

United States

#16 Jan 4, 2017
asset wrote:
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And you can't have black people feeling good about themselves now can ya. Celebrating pagan holidays like Christmas, etc is what black people shouldn't be celebrating. Black history month should be expanded throughout the year. Teach your children at home because public schools only teach you about the same 3 or 4 people anyhow. They don't dare teach children about before slavery.
I say teach them everyday to stay away from religion, holidays and the entertainment business.
What history before slavery?oh u mean the history of blacks running threw the jungle with bones in their nose. You people.........what do you think blacks were took from a great civilization of modern inventions and prosperity? U were living in mud huts dancing around a fire.dumazz get real.
asset

Long Beach, NY

#17 Jan 5, 2017
Trumpsboy wrote:
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What history before slavery?oh u mean the history of blacks running threw the jungle with bones in their nose. You people.........what do you think blacks were took from a great civilization of modern inventions and prosperity? U were living in mud huts dancing around a fire.dumazz get real.
that was Tarzan running through the jungle with bones in his nose. Not the Africans. Africans had on handmade jewelry. What would you know mr. Neanderthal? Europeans were dragging Knuckle's living in a dark cave. Are we supposed to be impressed by that?
Trumpsboy2017

Atlanta, GA

#18 Jan 5, 2017
asset wrote:
<quoted text> that was Tarzan running through the jungle with bones in his nose. Not the Africans. Africans had on handmade jewelry. What would you know mr. Neanderthal? Europeans were dragging Knuckle's living in a dark cave. Are we supposed to be impressed by that?
at the time blacks were running threw the jungle before slavery the white man had already invented the combustion motor and light bulb but your right that custom jewelry must have been magnificent... Dumazz.
asset

Long Beach, NY

#19 Jan 6, 2017
Trumpsboy2017 wrote:
<quoted text>at the time blacks were running threw the jungle before slavery the white man had already invented the combustion motor and light bulb but your right that custom jewelry must have been magnificent... Dumazz.
the combustion motor came about in the late 1800's at this time, the British was causing havoc on African soil. Occupation, murder and enslavement was happening.
Please note, Africa is a continent. The Congo is what you may call a Jungle but it is beautiful nature called a rainforest. There are TV shows, documentaries showing the beauty of it but you want to make it sound so unattractive so beneath mankind. Go sit down.
StarsRaligned

Austell, GA

#20 Jan 7, 2017
You sound stupid, " riding on the coattails" if we get rid of black history month we should get rid of the rest of them ..so other races won't ride on the coat tails of their ancestors &#128530;
StarsRaligned

Austell, GA

#21 Jan 7, 2017
SlayWithTheTruth wrote:
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I see Black history month as a reminder of some of the things that our ancestors had to go through. It's like how God used the rainbow as a reminder of the flood


Right! I totally agree :)
2 Dogs

East Hartford, CT

#22 Jan 10, 2017
Noni Alexander wrote:
Since most of "black history" is made up of myths, gross exaggerations, and outright lies told to blacks to make them feel better about themselves, yes: Black History Month is a total joke.
Should Krackers stop having 911 ceremonies.

When will Krackers finally move on?
2 Dogs

Lawrence, MA

#25 Jan 12, 2017
Sicklecell Supporter wrote:
<quoted text>When will nighurs learn to live in a society without savage behavior?
When will the lying Racist murdering Kracker Scumbag Devil learn to live in society in a respectable and civil manner?

You Krackers can get it right. I think you can if you like.
cornerback black

Toledo, OH

#26 Jan 15, 2017
Noni Alexander wrote:
Since most of "black history" is made up of myths, gross exaggerations, and outright lies told to blacks to make them feel better about themselves, yes: Black History Month is a total joke.
Noni Alexander, you are not only a jealous person but a narrow minded person who speaks very dumb when you open your mouth. Black people ( the true Israelites) basically built up America including the White House. Our inventions, contributions and breakthroughs are well noted in the new Black History Museum in Washington D.C.. That is weak and shallow to recognize the negative of African American history only or figure Blacks have NO abundant history before they were brought to America.
2 Dogs

East Hartford, CT

#28 Jan 16, 2017
From March to January should be called Kracker time.

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